489 Responses to “Why Do Thai Girls Marry Older Foreign Guys?”

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   Pukky 26 December 2012 at 12:58 am Permalink

   I’m a Thai woman …and I have boyfriend who Foreign young than me 5 years old and he so poor …

   can someone tell me this is love or about money ?

   please if you don’t know about Thai woman very well don’t judge in her.

   all women are same , have heart , have mind , have feeling and soul .

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     Steve 26 December 2012 at 1:13 am Permalink

     I agree “all women are same , have heart , have mind , have feeling and soul”. Good luck with your boyfriend and your relationship.

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     Ketil 26 December 2012 at 1:30 pm Permalink

     Some girls in Thailand are NOT after money but love. Sadly it is very hard to find these girls. Many thai girls say ” love and money are same same” This means if you love her much, you give her and her family much.

     But real thai girls who is happy with what they have, and happy for what they get exist! It’s just hard like hell to find them.

     These girls do not hang around touristplaces. So for gods sake stop look for girl at internet, go to thailand, and go to Rachada in Bangkok, or Lat phrao or samut prakan ( examples ) here you not see many white guys, and girls are different from Sukhumvit road. And soi cowboy and Nana.

     Most thai girls I know send home 3000 bath every month to parents. some 4000 bath.

     I talked with 1 girl she needed 35000 bath every month??? For what???
     Some men are stupid enough to actually send this amont of money to girls they barely have met.

     So sure girls think it normal to get this??

     The men that do this are usually poor quick as hell, and without a girl.

     so Some men are not the brightest bulbs going to thailand to get a girl!!!!!!
     And some thai girls are just as ignorant, they think all farang can pay 25-35.000 bath every month to them.

     It is simpley lack of knowledge.Or as we call them in Europe and USA “Idiots”

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   Ketil 28 November 2012 at 12:03 pm Permalink

   I had a Thai gf, I was in Thailand with her, and she came to Norway with me. This girl was special, and we did plan to marry. But she was not happy or satisfied with things. She was not rich, but had university education, and a good job, as well as her own house and land.
   She wanted things too quick, and she scared the living crap out of me. So I sendt her back home. She lied, she cheated, she fought, and was not easy, because of time, money and feelings invested I gave her a second chance. I went back to her in Thailand 4 months after and we had a great time. We talked again everyday and I thought things would be finally ok. But last month we talked she found a new man online. So she went behind my back again.
   And she lied again.
   She do say she is a good girl and want a big sin sod, but she act like a curee girl and like behave like child. As well as make her self and her family lose face.
   Yes I am happy she did before I married her, now I only feel sad for her.

   What I found anoying was that she was mentally very like my 8 year old son, and she new nothing about Europe, or history. I have 2 kids and I find it hard, to be with a 29 year old girl that are mentally at same level as my child, it’s like have 3 children instead of 2.

   Thais lie much, and it seem to be ok in Thailand, but here it’s not ok, and it do lead to many fights, and bad endings.

   I whish Thai girls was reading here, so they could learn about farang men, and our culture too, and not just say “you need understand me and my culture”.

   Thai girls have an od aibility to seal their faith them selves. Some do good, and many lie, cheat, and want money.

   I know thai girls can be the sweetest wifes, but before finding a thai girl you need go to thailand, you need understand about sin sod, family, and culture.

   No need to mention, sin sod is a thai custom, when thai marry thai. When thai marry farang, you not need pay. But many do as to respect their girl and new family. But never pay much, thai girls want you respect them, by pay something i sin sod you do. If they respect you they not ask for high sin sod.

   It goes both ways;)

   I hope many read here and learn, and use it for good.

   Bar girls are not easy, but you can find good girls there too.

   Enjoy, and maybe I go to france for a hot 18 year old long legged slim model next;) Tha nobody call me an old pig, hahahahaaha
   Or I go to Myanmar or vitenam or just maby I see you in Thailand;)

   although that french girl sounded nice;)

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   Uvan 5 November 2012 at 12:21 pm Permalink

   Hello everyone,

   I am 34 year old Indian and in love with a 24 years Thai Isaan girl for quite a time and now recently married. I am very happy with her as she love and care me so much and same I do for her. I want to tell everyone that Thai girls are exceptionally loving and caring and they are only seeking true love which they know cannot get from Thai men. I feel very lucky to be her husband and only think that any men on the earth are luckiest with the Thai wife. Uvan Love Bim so much.

   Thanks

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   Amy 2 October 2012 at 12:49 pm Permalink

   I completely agree with BKKWhiteBoy.
   Old men who lives wth 20-30 years younger girl, must have serious problems. He is not financial stable, he is not able to find woman from his country, because he feels inferior, simply he is nor “REAL MAN.”
   Old men who wants to feel superior, to control their wifes, even they have nothing in common ( not in communication, conversation, culture…ect…), they feel like “real men” and feel happy. What is in their wife’s head, they dont have clue. Definitely NOT LOVE.

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   Maggio 8 September 2012 at 2:47 am Permalink

   Sawasdee ka everybody here…i read much of yours above and want to share ..I know different culture is big problem when you marry with someone who come from another side of the world..so when two people meet each other and love happened…it is not only both of you in this world and promotion in love finished…the best way to help the most is talking ..talking and talking with reason and by heart…it is true that staying in love have to consist of financial sector ..except love ..but that doesn’t mean ..you have to be rich men or find rich girl to marry with..I think many couple have problem because they don’t talk very well and each think only one side and each think they do correct ..example..a man from Europe country..come to travel Thailand and meet a wonderful Thai girl…it is falling in love even they can’t talk in same language but that is not problem..the man think this is the right relation and ask her to get married ..but when you is ask by strange question as sin sod ..yes,,that is important for Thai girls…it is custom..and u can’t accept ..even some parents ..I can say..many parents in the cities..they will return it to the couple after wedding ceremony..it is only custom ..that they want prove from a man who the daughter love…in Thailand now ..in case Thai get married with Thai ..if they are so young and want to marry…some parents spend everything for them…so ..I only foreigners know only you take care of her with ur heart ..that present it to everyone in her family know how much u love her…that is correct thing to do first…not money..not gift ..just open ur mind without bias in culture..u can see miracle thing happen in ur life…love is beautiful and warm and strong when it’s problem…think of first period that u have in the first time that u meet her…learn her culture ,language ..u can find true love and age is not problem anymore ..don’t worry what will happen in the future ..don’t think it in advance ..having a baby when u r old ..it is nice present from god..nobody can stay with their children forever….don’t only think u come from developing country and everything that Thai girls do it is silly thing…try to learn new thing ..and u will be lot of experience in life…it can’t buy from supermarket ..but u have to spend all of ur life to learn ..and it is infinity …u know how lucky you are ..if ur family have two different culture in one and it is harmony…I like this topic ..but I don’t believe this will happen only older farang…but if it happen..that still be beautiful…destiny take you to meet love …love take you to have long relation ….falling in love is better..but staying in love is much better..

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     brigham 4 March 2013 at 6:50 am Permalink

     Totaly agree with you.
     I have extensive knowledge as ihave traveled to more countries than most and lived in some of them.
     I have never had a problem and you should respect other cultures and traditions.
     You are in their country and should respect this.
     Most western people still think that it should be their way of doing things,and if if you cannot adjust or compromise then stay at home.
     If you love someone and wish to be together then money should not be an issue.
     If it is then there is no love

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   G.B. 12 July 2012 at 6:19 am Permalink

   Ah, Ms. Tu, I see you trolling this forum again. Have you not noticed that there is no one here who believes you? Or noticed that you are the only one that believes your misguided version of history? Unless you hadn’t noticed, during Vietnam Thai people happily let the U.S. use bases in Thailand for the U.S. Air Force. Adding to that, if you had sense to study the issue, even today the Royal Thai Air Force uses fighter jets from the USA and Sweden.

   Wake up, Ms. Tu! No one cares for your racist and xenophobic views. My Isaan wife does not have black skin, but I would not care if it was. The rest of us are of the human race, and skin color does not matter. Skin color only matters to those who are racist, and look for something to make them feel better about themselves and higher than others. My Isaan wife is lighter skin than I am and I am a white farang. So much for your mistaken assumptions.

   That said, my Isaan wife without a university education can still spell and write better English than you can, and also knows history better.

   I laugh every time a read a post. I must thank you very much for much entertainment and laughter.

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     Steve 12 July 2012 at 6:42 am Permalink

     Sorry G.B. but I got tired of Ms. Tu’s ongoing xenophobic and racist rants. As you well know, I have never censored anyone in the past, however I have made an exception in poor misguided Tu’s case. All of her poorly written, unresearched, hateful posts have found their way into the trash (where they belong), and will continue to do so.

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       G.B. 12 July 2012 at 8:00 am Permalink

       Thank you, Steve. For me, it was just one more troll trying to cause a ruckus. I never took offense, just was entertained by ignorance.

       God willing, will be in Thailand on September 6 and ask for a non-O visa. Any advice?

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         G.B. 12 July 2012 at 8:02 am Permalink

         Absolutely no need for sorry, my friend. There is a limit to what admin/moderators can allow on the boards. Having been staff on two other boards in the US, I can fully understand. Fair winds to you and Golf my friend. Hopefully our paths will cross.

         God bless,

         G.B.

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         Steve 12 July 2012 at 8:03 am Permalink

         non-O retirement visa? You will get the visa in the US and be looking for the yearly extension once you get here? Just be sure you have all the paperwork in order and bring your patience with you to the Immigration offices.

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           G.B. 12 July 2012 at 8:12 am Permalink

           I know I must have proof of income and that is no problem. Also I have copies of our marriage certificate, both in English and in Thai. Do you know what other documents I will need? We’ve waited for US immigration going on a year and a half and we just got told at least another six months. We’ve been apart far too long. Is there perhaps a web site I can go to in order to learn about the process? Perhaps a non-O is not the best way to do it?
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           Steve 12 July 2012 at 12:14 pm Permalink

           You have been waiting on US immigration for 18 months for your wife’s visa? Holy crap! It was just 5 months for Golf when she applied.

           I’ll have to look through my folder and will let you know about the documents. It isn’t as onerous as some people would have you believe. Probably a good thing as I have to do my yearly extension at the end of August too.
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           G.B. 12 July 2012 at 8:14 am Permalink

           Shuttling back and forth from Thailand to the US to care for an ailing mother is getting expensive. My youngest brother has volunteered to take care now, I need to be permanently settled with my wife, and not jetting out of the country all the time.
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           Steve 12 July 2012 at 12:15 pm Permalink

           Expensive as well as physically and emotionally trying I’m sure. Glad you will be able to finally settle down.
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   Roger D 8 July 2012 at 5:43 am Permalink

   Tu,

   Your comments are wrong once again. You are clearly angry against foriegners for some personal reason. It is affecting your ability to tell the truth. I have extracted some evidence from the internet for you to read, about how the Japanese RAPED Thai women in the 2nd world war, and how they continue to RAPE Thai women in modern times. – See 1/& 2/ below.

   1/ How Japanese RAPED Thai women in the 2nd world war. From Wikipedia.
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comfort_women
   The term “comfort women” was a euphemism used to describe women forced into sexual slavery by the Japanese military during World War II.[1][2]
   Estimates vary as to how many women were involved, with numbers ranging from as low as 20,000 from some Japanese scholars[3] to as high as 410,000 from some Chinese scholars,[4] but the exact numbers are still being researched and debated. A majority of the women were from Korea, China, Japan and the Philippines,[5] although women from Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, Taiwan, Indonesia and other Japanese-occupied territories were used for military “comfort stations”. Stations were located in Japan, China, the Philippines, Indonesia, then Malaya, Thailand, then Burma, then New Guinea, Hong Kong, Macau, and what was then French Indochina.[6]
   Young women from countries under Japanese Imperial control were abducted from their homes. In many cases, women were also lured with promises of work in factories or restaurants. Once recruited, the women were incarcerated in “comfort stations” in foreign lands. Other women were rounded up at gunpoint, some being raped before being herded into “comfort stations”.[2][7] It has been documented that the Japanese military itself recruited women by force.[8] Some “comfort stations” were run by private agents supervised by the Japanese Army or run directly by the Japanese Army.[1][2]

   2/ How Japanese continue to RAPE Thai women.
   From Human rights watch:
   Owed Justice: Thai Women Trafficked into Debt Bondage in Japan, 1 September 2000, available at:

   http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/publisher,HRW,,JPN,3bdffcf91,0.html

   Thousands of Thai women are “trafficked” every year into Japan, where many of them endure slavery-like conditions in the Japanese sex industry, Human Rights Watch said in a this new report. According to the 227-page report, “Owed Justice: Thai Women Trafficked into Debt Bondage in Japan,” the women are typically promised lucrative jobs by traffickers in Thailand, but arrive in Japan to find themselves trapped in “debt.” To repay these exorbitant sums – usually US$25,000 to US$40,000 – they must work for months, or even years, without pay, under highly coercive and abusive conditions. Japanese officials have publicly expressed their concern for the victims of trafficking. But over the course of a six-year investigation in both Japan and Thailand,

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   Ryan 7 July 2012 at 3:51 am Permalink

   Ms Tu,

   Your lack of understand on world history is sad. The Mongols were conquering people from many nations, but they were doing those conquests in prior to Thailand even existing as a nation. Additionally, the Mongols conquered all of China, subjugated Tibet, conquered most of Central Asia and only a handful of nations from eastern Europe. So in short, they conquered VERY FEW WHITEMEN.

   Additionally, the majority of ethnic Thai people at that time did not live in modern day Thaiand. They actually lived in southern China, in what is currently Yunnan province. The Kingdom, in English, was named Nan Chao and its capital was at Dali. That kingdom had existed there since the early 800′s AD. Oh, and by the way, Nan Chao, the kingdom of the Thai peoples WAS CONQUERED BY THE MONGOLS.

   The modern dat Thailand was only made possible because of the mass migration of Thai peoples outof the conquered Nan Chao kingdom.

   So, lets see. English, German, French, Italian, Spanish, Swedish, Danish….a whole bunch of white men = non conquered by the mongols. Nan Chao, the only nation of Thai peoples in that time of history = was conquered by the mongols.

   You seem to have a deep rooted hatred of white people and any thai peoples who think differently than you. And you are arguing out of a unique ignorant and uneducated position.

   By the way, my wife is from Thailand. From the far south, but was educated in Thailand with a masters degree is NOT a translator, but even before coming to the United States to live here with me, wrote much better english than you. Additionally, I have visited Thailand on numerous occassions and at least in Bangkok, it would seem they have translators there that do a whole lot better job translating than you are doing.

   If you are going to argue, please attempt to make arguments rooted in facts. Otherwise you come across as just a ignorant, ill-educated country biggot who is just massively jeleous of everyone else in the world. Oh, and a stark raving mad lunitic as well.

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   peter 3 July 2012 at 5:47 pm Permalink

   you know little ôife, and you know little people. no matter if people are white or asian.. depends of heart.. a lot european guys are very good people, and maybe you are happy with..

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    Ketil 16 June 2012 at 4:26 am Permalink

    A different matter. I had a thai girl.

    She wanted to marry and me too, but we fight much.

    Mostly we fought about sin sod and prenup.

    Sin sod is ( told by Thai Munc to me) a custom in Thailand, when Thai marry Thai.
    When Thai marry farang this is not a custom, but as farang we often know about this and give some in a symbolic way, and most men get all of it or most of it back after the wedding.

    The fact that farang men agre to do this shows that we know about their culture and respect them. And if thai girls and their families understand and respect farang man they not ask for much in Sin sod.

    Usually we send money to family every month, and fix houses for them either build or renovate. And we do take good care of their daughters.

    So my girl was here for 3 months and we did fight much, sha wanted a high sin sod and she wanted to keep much, as well as she wanted me to renovate her house, and send money every month.

    She fought about prenup too, she wanted to get half of my house and car and stocks too.

    But any man sany with a little sence in his head not gice a house in Europe that cost quite a bit to a Thai girl that have nothing!!!!!!!

    She wanted all to be done fast and not a little and a little, so I sendt her back home. I feel bad because I know she loose face, and her family does too.

    But I still feel I gave her many chances of do things different so we could be happy. Anyway thai girls are beautiful, and has a grace that many white chicks not have. But sadly many is only in it for the money.

    So to all guys who are in relationship with thai girls be careful and know sin sod is not for us. You can say no, if the girl really love you she will not argue about money, and she will sign a prenup without ask anything.

    If you pay sin sod, is up to you, and you can decide the amount not let the girl do this.

    you can say no to sin sod too.

    But they do fix a party so to give a little as thanks is ok and make everyone happy, but often 50.000 bath is enough. Not need give more.

    If they need much (Munc say) than there need be something really special they need money for. But still is up to you to consider this.

    Any farang can go talk with muncs too, In Europe there are many Thai wat, here muncs talk Thai and the language in which country they are in. I guess they have Thai wat in USA and Australia too. Here you get replys that are good, and from people that know Thai culture and your culture.

    And Remember Thi muncs are higly thought of for Thais, so to say to a girl Munc say this and this, she have really problems by not agree.

    Anyway, I miss the land of smiles, I miss a nice girl, but I learnt much.

    And I am sure I did mistakes too;) It is always 2 sides of a story;) I am farang, I have educatin, but I am not perfect;)
    anyway I hope this can help people, that would be nice;)

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      G.B. 16 June 2012 at 7:59 am Permalink

      Ketil,

      Hello, nice to see you again. My Isaan wife never asked me for money. Nor did she ever ask me for Sin Sod. My experience is somewhat different than yours. My wife has never had a fight with me. In our years of marriage we only had one disagreement, and that was because of a misunderstanding.

      I quite agree with much of what you have posted. I have found in Thailand that everyone I meet is polite and kind. A Thai who has a hateful and angry attitude toward a foreigner, for me, has been quite rare.

      I am a bit taken aback that a university education in LOS does not seem to always lead to a “good” job. I’ve seen a lot of university grads working at places like 7-11 stores.

      I also agree with poster Sleepless in Samui that knowledge of events outside of, and even INSIDE of Thailand seems to be sorely lacking for many. That, to me, is a shame and a pity. Thailand has a rich history, and Thais has much to be proud of in their heritage.

      I am sad for Miss Tu. To be filled with such anger and hatred toward toward her own countrymen and much of the world must be a horrible burden to carry.

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        Ketil 17 June 2012 at 4:21 am Permalink

        Thanks GB and Sleepless in Samui!!!!!
        I only try write good here so that people can learn. Many white men go to Thailand and fall in love with a sophisticated, beautiful girl who has grace and womenly figures. It is completley understandable.

        But it is a very different culture, and people need realise this. Further more, I think it is a big difference to live in Thailand with your girl, or take them to Europe, USA or Australia. Here (outside Thailand) they meet other Thai girls, girls who have been here for 5,6,7, 20 years. They tell them about what they should get from their husband, and how things work, not always for the best.
        Second, my experience is that friends and family in Thailand put pressure on them too, because if a girl is married to a farang, she can bring home much more money, and everybody should see she is married to Farang, because they want us to buy them much gold.

        Gold and big house and motor bikes / car show that they are well off financially. And this they will ask for if they want money.
        If smart they ask for this a little and a little. But the goal is still the same, to get it!!!!!!!!!!!

        If the girl is as miss TU say, than she will tell you her mum is sick, or their cow died, or brother was in motorbike accident, to get quick bucks.
        But Honestly, how many mothers get sick and need 50-100.000 bath???

        A local clinic, is cheap, even for give birth!!!!!!!

        as for education,my ex girl that I sendt home she had university degree, but she never heard of Hitler???? I shocked, that is what I call lack of history knowledge.

        That shows that the school and education system in Thailand is poor, they not know much about Europe or western countries in general.

        In Europe we buildt up our continent after WW2, but I see the houses many Thai people have, they not have this work moral, and they not take care things like we do. So they ask for money of people who have.

        They not save, they not keep their houses, motorbikes and cars in good condition like we do. But they surtenly buy new cell phone to be IN.

        They not understand that if farang earn much money, that we have many bills too. They think we are rich, and there we get huge problems.

        In Norway where I am from, if a thai girl is married to a Norwegian man, she can divorse after 3 years with him, because after 3 years she is granted permit to stay here. Many girls leave their husband after 3 years and 14 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        Than the man have payed all for them, and hopefully put a child on them too, so that he pay child fee to her every month too, and fixed house, and given her gold. And provided her with house, and food and money and clothes when she studied the language, and got a job after.

        Than she can take care her selfe. But usually they than look for a new man!!!!!!!!!

        I not sure if I will marry a thai girl, it cost much in money and effort, but if I meet a good, nice girl it will be worth it, if I make another mistake I honestly not think it is worth it.

        But I not know what the future will bring;)

        Thailand Fever, is a great book. I can honestly recomend everybody in here to read it!!!!! It has english language on 1 page, and Thai on the other page. This book will help any interracial couple much, and thay girls will clearly understand their own language.
        And if problems go to wat with your girl and talk it over with a MUNC.

        Here many couples go to Wat Thai Norway, for advice and marriage help.

        That men and women is my best advice to give, from here on is only up to you.

        And to sleepless in Samui, good post, about owning in Thailand;)
        Never give half your house in the west to a Thai girl, if build or renovate hose for them in Siam, than make sure you lease halfe the house for many many years. than they can not rob you.

        But it is easy, everything you give to Thailand you need think of as a loss, if you can afford to loose 10.000 bath every month, than you can give 10.000 bath.
        if you can loose 600.000 bath for a house, than it is ok, if your economy is hard than you can not do this, than you need find a girl in your own country!!!!!

        I am sure this will help you and the girl!!!!!!!
        Know what you do, or as a t-shirt I bought in Sukhumvit road says: No money, no honey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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          Maggio 8 September 2012 at 3:24 am Permalink

          Hmmm….I heard many stories about this from many foreigners that I knew…you are not he one that it happened with…I don’t say the things that happen to u..it is good or bad…certainly it is not very good …but it is not quite bad ..at least u learnt in different culture and custom ..and every countries is different …some is good ..some is bad ..but not for everyone..many foreigners like some Thai culture ..some foreigner is cheated from isan girl …but it is experience that u cannot buy from anywhere…please open ur mind ..and u will see miracle thing in ur life …and having true love with a girl that I believe she will be a lucky girl…I read in many comment of yours of GB …I know u r good man…don’t give up to fate…because sometimes it take you to meet love ..and long relation..nobody know the future..

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      Sleepless in Samui 16 June 2012 at 11:02 am Permalink

      good post mate

      I agree i went to a thai wedding in LOS with thai marry thai and the sin sod shown was 700,000 baht teacher marry govt employee both no divorce or kids.

      farang guy needs to be careful for many thai women simply looking for money for family, house is big because it is major cost and no farang can own property in thailand.

      always have a pre nup in thailand and never buy a house without usurfruct agreement or long term lease.

      if your thai girl gives pressure for money or concentrates on money very much then maybe not a good idea, there are many good ones…take the time to find her in a sea of bad ones.

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        Ketil 17 June 2012 at 5:50 am Permalink

        Another truth about many (not all) Thai girls is that they want you to send money to parents when they are in a western country. In addition to this they want pocket money for them selfe when here too, and that you pay for school, and food, and clothes, and make up, and shoes, and all she need.

        In western countries thai girls talk between them about how much they get from thei husbands. Here it is high satus to have most = have the richest man.

        Some girls even fight hands on, because they argue about who has the best husband.
        best husband = man who has most money!!!!!!

        When they talk like this they often lie, because husbands in general not give them so much money.

        But lying is easy for thai girls, I may be wrong here so arrest me if I am.

        In thailand loosing face is very bad, so they rather lie than loose face. One lie is told and than more lies will come to follow up. In Thailand this is normal, but in western countries this is not normal, and many farang not like girls who lie.

        But mark my words! Many Thai girls do like this but not all!!!!!!!!!

        I read on internet about 2 months ago and see that the divorse rate among thai girls and farang is getting high. One man from an Amphur office said that girls divorse because after 3-5 years with a man ( they make him pay for house wedding, gold, clothes, Land, and what ever you may think of) the man not have money left.
        Than the girls say, you not have money, you not take care me good, you not care for my family so they divorse to find new man!!!!!

        Thai Girls can be really cynical.

        So it is always good to not give so much in the beginning, take it slow, they not have much and they not need much ( this was another advice from the MUNC).

        And if you look how things are in Thailand you will understand. How was your girls house when you met her?? how was her job?? How much money did she have??
        did they have car?? was the house big and new??

        Probably not. so why should you do all for them quick?? You not do this with a western girl.

        You not send money to girls either, but som stupid farang do, and than girls telle other girls and many start expect money quick, thay really think this is easy earned money.

        But when they meet a man who know a little they smile and say so cute you learn and know much, but reality is that many not like, because if you know they need be careful, and that they not like.

        But lucky for us, men start to talk too, so now we know.

        Some girls divorse and go back, other girls get sendt back, than they sell everything they got to get money, when meet new man he need pay for all 1 more time. Saving and take care things is not something they do.

        My ex, she will sell all she can to get money, but right now I see she is online on skype, facebook and msn. Why??
        To hunt for next farang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        Money not grow on trees but in the pants of farang men!!!!!!!

        But if you find a good, honest, hardworking, thai girl who loves you and not money, than I think you can not find better wife. But there are about 65 million people in Thailand, and many many of these are girls, so that you need to look for a while that is true.

        That’s all from me folks, have a nice life, and keep on sharing experiences, The thai girls sure do, even with a portion of lie in it;)

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    Ketil 16 June 2012 at 4:01 am Permalink

    I know that in many places in south east asia there is a harsh racisme against white men. This a fact. But not all people feel like this.

    Now I think for Thailand this change too, thai people see that they are in fact relying an tourists, it is a huge source of income in Thailand.

    So people wake up and understand that they can not be rasists to the hand that feed them. Many other marry farang, so not only the girl but also their family and friends praise white men.

    But for some girls marrying a farang is still about secure her future financially, and secure her parents a secure income.

    But here to things change and more girls fall in love.

    You talk about History, you say you not like Isaan girls or white men, Ususally when people depite races of etnicity like this, it is because bed things have happened to them. Maybe your BF or husband had Isaan girls as mia noys, and maybe you meet a farang that was not nice with you or simply did not want you.

    Sure some farang are bad, and stupid, but same goes for Thai people, but many are nice too.

    Maybe you should stop angry and hate, and try forgive, than you get a better life your self;)

    But is up to you, here you preach about the best universities in Krung thep, I find it strange, you try educate farang in here.

    Many farang in here have great aducation from universities all over the world, many has in fact travelled around the world too, and many come from english speaking countries.

    We all see you grammar is poor, if you are a professional translator I would really worry for have letters translated by your company.

    And that more students take classes in chinese is not news for us, but still many search for english speaking teachers at universities all over southeast asia. I got offer about job like this from universities in 3 different countries when I did my studies.

    Relax, some people are not so smart and not so nice, farang and thai, but most people are nice, Isaan or white or Siam people.

    Relax and have fun, some Isaan girls are great, some girls from the south is great too, and farang girls are nice too;)

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    Sleepless in Samui 16 June 2012 at 1:00 am Permalink

    the Thai writer is clearly delusional, speaks loudly of the type of education available in Thailand, Thailand consistently ranks very low in educational standards. in my experience many Thais have no concept of anything outside Thailand and little knowledge of any world history at all.

    sadly this writer Tu? is a shining example of everything wrong with the Thai educational system and exactly why Thailand will never realize it’s true potential…in the next few years Thailand will be surpassed and IS being surpassed by Philippines and Vietnam in economic progress, despite having had to catch up.

    Thailand will always be just a nice holiday destination, while those around it become great nations…India, China come to mind.

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    G.B. 14 June 2012 at 9:45 pm Permalink

    I hope you enjoy the “miaa noi” that so many men you are so proud of seem to enjoy so much.

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      G.B. 14 June 2012 at 9:52 pm Permalink

      Perhaps you might read the entire web site. Shan people need help.

      http://maisoongkha.blogspot.com/2007/01/shan-people-in-myanmay.html

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    G.B. 14 June 2012 at 9:42 pm Permalink

    She laughs at the torture and death of white men. Says much about character.

    Tu said……”WHY A LOT LOT DEAD WHITEMEN CORPSES IN THAILAND? WHO LET THIS HAPPEN IN THAILAND?”

    Very simple answer. THAILAND let it happen in Thailand. Apparently did not care about torture and death done in Thailand.

    Why did Thai minister go to USA after WWII to ask the USA for peace???? The USA said yes, they did not have to. The USA and Allies soundly defeated the Axis, including Japan. The Axis surrendered unconditionally. The Thai minister asked the USA for peace. The USA was kind and granted it. They did not have to. They had just had a hand in defeating ALL of the Axis powers and forced them to their knees. Does one really think that they are afraid of someone else standing by themselves? Not likely.

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    Sam 14 June 2012 at 9:50 am Permalink

    Tu
    I am so sorry you have been deluded by an inadequate and xenophobic education.
    You claim to have good English language skills but these are not apparent in your posts here.
    All I see is anger because, I suspect, you realise the futility of your argument.
    How can you possibly excuse the behaviour of the Japanese during the second world war?
    Denial is one thing. Hiding behind it through enforced ignorance today, is quite another. I sympathise with your predicament.
    Sam

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      G.B. 14 June 2012 at 9:35 pm Permalink

      @Sam,

      Indeed, I quite agree with the observation. The posts are filled with nothing but insults toward “white” people. There must be an underlying reason for such anger and bitterness toward whites.

      I see denial in the face of proof with a web link provided. Anger and hostility. A poor education in English, especially for a “professional translator”.

      My “uneducated” Isaan wife, that Miss Tu apparently despises because of her ethnicity is much better at English sentence structure and grammar WITHOUT a university education.

      It is a pity that so much money went for a university education when the result is so poor.

      I suspect the anger may have a deeper source. Much more than recognizing the futility of the argument. Jilted by a westerner maybe? Just speculation, of course.

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    G.B. 13 June 2012 at 8:34 am Permalink

    Miss Tu is wrong about G.B. being from Europe. G.B. is from the USA.

    Miss Tu, have you noticed no one else but me has commented on your posts? No one else cares, Miss Tu. The only reason G.B. from the USA comments is because he likes a spirited discussion. I grow bored quickly with the discussion.

    Miss Tu seems to be very angry and bitter about something. That is sad. Mr. G.B is sorry for whatever makes Miss Tu so angry and bitter.

    Perhaps Miss Tu would care to comment about why The Royal Thai Air Force does not fly Thai fighter planes? They fly fighter planes from USA and Sweden. They cannot build their own?

    Other Thai people both Isaan and ethnic Thai are much more polite than Miss Tu and do not insult anyone. Sad.

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    Roger D 13 June 2012 at 2:29 am Permalink

    Many Thai women were raped and abused by the Japanese militia during the second world war. This is a fact. If you doubt this fact, then you need to travel to Kanchanaburi in Thailand, go to museums, or ask the older folk there. There is plenty of evidence that Japanese raped and mistreated Thai women, and many others.

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    G.B. 10 June 2012 at 11:23 am Permalink

    I would try to reply, but presently I am laughing too much to type.

    Oh, by the way, Shan people flee Burma to Thailand. I know Shan people in Mai Hong San.

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      G.B. 10 June 2012 at 12:35 pm Permalink

      Thai history, briefly……….

      c252 BC Buddhism first brought to Suvannabhumi (“Golden Land” – probably centred around today’s Nakhon Pathom area) by Indian King Asoka’s missionaries
      c550 Dvaravati civilization of Buddhist ethnic Mon people in central and northeastern Thailand until the 9th century
      c1000 Ethnic Tai peoples moving down from southern China; Angkorean empire in control in 11th and 12th centuries, bringing Brahmanism, Mahayana Buddhism, Sanskrit words and the Khmer-based royal vocabulary still in use today
      1238 Ethnic Tai Sukhothai kingdom established by King Sri Indraditya
      1259 King Mangrai first ruler of ethnic Tai kingdom of Lanna
      1279 Accession of King Ramkhamhaeng of Sukhothai
      1292 Ramkhamhaeng’s inscription describing his kingdom
      1345 Compilation of the influential Buddhist text Triphum Phra Ruang (Three Worlds Cosmography) by King Lithai of Sukhothai
      1351 Legendary foundation of Ayutthaya
      1569 First fall of Ayutthaya to the Burmese
      1656 Accession of King Narai
      1688 Palace coup against King Narai over the influence of Greek adventurer Constantine Phaulkon and other foreigners; Phaulkon executed
      1767 Second fall of Ayutthaya
      1768 King Taksin defeats the Burmese and establishes new Siamese capital at Thonburi
      1782 New capital established at Bangkok, accession of King Yotfa, Rama I
      1822 First trade treaty with Britain
      1851 Accession of King Mongkut, Rama IV
      1855 Bowring Treaty
      1863 French protectorate of Cambodia
      1868 Accession of King Chulalongkorn, Rama V
      1872 Chulalongkorn’s visit to India
      1874 Front Palace Incident; Anglo-Siam Treaty over Chiang Mai; edict abolishing slavery
      1890 Establishment of Privy Purse Bureau
      1892 Formation of ministerial council
      1893 French gunboats threaten Bangkok (Paknam Incident); foundation of Ministry of Interior
      1897 Chulalongkorn’s first visit to Europe
      1901 Isan Holy Men’s rebellion
      1902 Phrae revolt; southern states revolt; Sangha Act
      1904 Siam Society founded
      1905 Conscription edict
      1908 Sun Yat Sen visit to Bangkok
      1909 Anglo-Siamese Treaty finalizes Siam’s boundaries
      1910 Accession of King Vajiravudh, Rama VI; Chinese strike in Bangkok
      1912 Plot uncovered in military
      1913 Nationality Act; Surname Act
      1916 Foundation of Chulalongkorn University
      1917 Siamese forces to fight on Allied side in World War 1 in Europe
      1925 Accession of King Prajadhipok, Rama VII
      1927 People’s Party founded in Paris
      1928 Boycott of Japanese goods
      1930 Ho Chi Minh forms Communist Party of Siam
      1932 Revolution results in change from absolute to constitutional monarchy
      1933 Boworadet Revolt
      1934 Foundation of Thammasat University; Phibun Songkram becomes minister of defence and army chief
      1935 Abdication of King Prajadhipok
      1937 Second boycott of Japanese imports
      1938 Phibun becomes prime minister
      1939 Siam renamed as Thailand
      1941 Japanese army enters Thailand; Thailand declares war on Allies; battle with French in which 59 Thai troops killed; Victory Monument erected
      1942 Phibun’s Sangha Act; Communist Party of Thailand refounded
      1944 Seri Thai resistance network established; Phibun ousted as prime minister
      1945 Seni Pramoj returns from the US to conduct peace negotiations
      1946 Pridi Banomyong’s constitution; death of King Ananda Mahidol, Rama VIII; accession of King Bhumibol Adulyadej, Rama IX

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        G.B. 10 June 2012 at 1:53 pm Permalink

        Worthy of note:

        1100-1200 A.D. Angkor Empire in control of Thailand. The Angkor Empire was Khmer people.

        Lanna was ethnic Tai kingdom.

        Royal vocabulary still in use today has basis in Khmer.

        1351 Ayutthaya founded.

        1569 Ayutthaya falls to Burmese.

        1767 Ayutthaya again falls to Burmese and is burned.

        http://www.sacredsiam.com/thailand-history-timeline.html

        His Royal Majesty the King was born in Massachusetts, USA, and had education at universities in Europe. Other kings were also born outside Thailand or had university education either in USA or Europe. Can show the link for that as well if you like.

        My Isaan country girl wife can help you to improve your written English

        Axis powers (Germany and Japan and their allies) lost World War II, BADLY. Thai Minister Seni Pramoj, in 1945, goes to US to negotiate for peace.

        Argue all you wish, phuying. I still love Thailand and her people, even if some of the very few are rude and impolite at times.

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        G.B. 10 June 2012 at 3:31 pm Permalink

        More to learn for friend Tu. History of Thai kings in 20th century. Seems to this farang like Thai kings like a western education. Some were even born in the west. All respect and homage to his majesty the king.

        King Vajiravudh (Rama VI) 1910-1925

        Rama VI was the son of King Chulalongkorn and Queen Sripatcharinthara. He partly got his education at University of Oxford in England. He continued his father’s work, to modernize Siam. Under the First World War, Thailand supported England and the Allied Powers. Unfortunately, Siam experienced an economic crisis under the 1920′s and some people was not satisfied with the progress of Siam. A number of young officers planned a Coup d’état against the King. The coup failed and the young soldiers were arrested. King Rama VI introduced the obligation of public education and he also founded the famous Chulalongkorn University, named after his father. He was also a highly recognized author and translator.

        ORANGE, PINK AND GREEN – Photo by Jens W, Yenit.com

        King Prajadhipok (Rama VII) 1925-1935

        Known as Ratchakal Ti Jed (seventh regent) among the Thai people. He partly got his education at Woolwich Military Academy and Eton College in England. He was inspired by the democratic system with parliament in England, but constitutional monarchy was not introduced before in 1932 after a non-bloody coup. The People’s Party or Khana Ratsadorn (with the famous Thai politician Pridi Phanomyong in a leading role) took a temporary control of one of the Royal Palaces in Bangkok. The first elections were held in November 1933. But this was also the start of a sixty year period, when the military, more or less, controlled Thailand. King Prajadhipok abdicate at March 2, 1935. He moved permanently to England and lived there until he passed away in 1941.

        King Ananda Mahidol (Rama VIII) 1935-1946

        He was born in Heidelberg, Germany in 1925. When his predecessor abdicated, Ananda Mahidol succeed his uncle. But as he was a young student, three “temporary” regents was chosen. Ten years later, King Ananda Mahidol moved permanently to Thailand, and instantly he won the Thai people’s respect. But on July 9, 1946, he was found dead in his bed with a deadly shot wound. His brother; Bhumibol Adulyadej succeed him.

        King Bhumibol Adulyadej (Rama IX) 1946-

        He was born in Massachusetts, USA, on the December 5, 1927 and was known as Phra Worawongse Ther Phra Ong Chao Bhumibol Adulyadej. He studied science on the University of Lausanne in Switzerland and when his brother passed away, Bhumibol Adulyadej succeed him. He chosen to return to Switzerland first to finish his studies, focusing on politics and law, because of his changed future.

        In 1949, Siam officially changed it’s name to Thailand and in Paris, the young King met Mom Rajawongse Sirikit Kitiyakara (later HM Queen Sirikit), daughter of Thailand’s ambassador in France. They got married on the April 28, 1950, only a week before his coronation on the May 5, 1950. King Bhumibol Adulyadej is loved by the Thai people; poor or rich, young or old doesn’t matter. All Thais has a true high respect for their king. He has in a clam and objective way talked to the military and the people when disturbances have occurred in the country. He is a supporter of democracy and two separate examples can illustrate this; the disturbances in Bangkok 1973 and 1992. In 1973 a large number of people gathered in the Thammasat University and protested against a weakened democracy in Thailand. The military was mobilized to stop this revolt, but King Bhumibol Adulyadej prevented the confrontation. In May 1992 the military used live ammunition against demonstrators and many were killed (This occurrence was later known as “Black May”). The King then summoned the prime minister General Suchinda Kraprayoon, and the leader of the demonstrators; Chamlong Srimuang for a meeting, broadcast live on TV. These men crawled on their knees up to the king, who told them his opinion. Shortly later, Suchinda resigned as Prime Minister and a democratic election was held. After this, no military coup has occurred in Thailand until 2006, when the prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra was removed from office in a Coup d’état.

        King Bhumibol Adulyadej is also the initiator of a numerous of projects that has improved the living conditions for many of the Thais, as the farmers etc. He is also a skilled jazz musician, photographer and translator.

        I enjoy giving history lessons. Thank you for the opportunity.

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      Sleepless in Samui 16 June 2012 at 1:09 am Permalink

      the Thai language and Buddhism… Sanskrit writing come from India

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      Ryan 7 July 2012 at 4:23 am Permalink

      Lol. The Mongols burnt down Rome?

      Where do you get this stuff. LOL. Too funny.

      The Mongols go as far as Poland and Hungary and thats it. Never any further than western Europe. And the Mongol’s stay in Poland and Hungary was even shorter than the Burmese’s control of Ayyutthia.

      Your people did not “come down with the mongols”. You are not of Mongol heritage. The Mongols conquered the ethnic Thai kingdom of Nan Chao and the Thai peoples that eventually settled into Burma and Thailand were mostly refugees from conquered Nan Chao.

      The good news: Real Thai history can be traced back another 400 years, once you examine the history of Nan Chao. The bad news for your arguements….Thai people are not the all-conquerors of the world. Thailand did well as an East Asian nation to resist British and Dutch efforts at colonialization.

      But the only reason you weren’t “conquered” in World War II was you just went with whoever was winning. When Japan wanted access to lands to attack British Burma and India, you allied yourself with Japan. Not because your people “wanted to”. Hell, just a few years before you have boycotts of Japanese goods because Japanese naval military doctrin was putting a lot of pressure on Thailand’s ability to trade with other nations of the world. You “allied” with them to avoid being conquered. And just the moment Japan looked to be defeated by the United States and United Kingdom, you surrendered to the Allies to avoid being conquered by them. You got to not be conquered because WE didn’t WANT TO CONQUERE YOU.

      Nothing wrong with some pride in your country. It has given you some reasons to be proud of it. But its not a perfect place (don’t worry, my country isn’t perfect either) and you aren’t the mighty conquerers of the world. Be mindful when you boast of all the great conquests your country has achieved that Thailand, in size, is about the size of Texas, just one of our 50 states. Sometimes a little perspective is a good thing.

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    G.B. 8 June 2012 at 8:13 am Permalink

    Hello, Tu.

    You have much to say. It is sad and also quite pathetic that someone that considers themselves so educated could have such a backward, xenophobic, and racist view.

    The English in the post, while readable, shows very poor grammar and syntax. My wife from Isaan writes much better English with better grammar and syntax and has never been to a university as a student.

    Knowledge of history is also poor. Siam could not and did not resist Japanese intrusion during World War II.

    http://countrystudies.us/thailand/21.htm

    In 1767 Siamese Ayutthaya was sacked by the Burmese, which is why the capitol eventually became Bangkok.

    If not for the West driving Japanese forces from Asia in World War II, Siam (Thailand) would still be a dupe for Japan.

    Siam (Thailand) has shown that it can govern itself only with great difficulty. This is shown by the fact that the military has had to step in and take over the government on more than one occasion since 1932.

    Siam allied itself with Japan during World War II, and were willing dupes aiding Japanese aggression in Southeast Asia.

    If girls from Isaan are the only ones working in the sex industry, then why are there girls from Nonthaburi working in bars on Walking Street in Pattaya?

    My wife worked for Asia Security at Suvarnabhumi Airport. While training for the job she had to help Siamese girls with an education from universities to understand the English, and to understand what they were learning. The pay was very poor. She makes much better pay working for a doctor near her village in Khon Kaen Province.

    A recommendation, if I may be so bold? Go back to school, phuying. Learn better English grammar and syntax. Perhaps my Isaan wife could teach you, as she does so much better, and WITHOUT the university, also without working in the “industry”! Also, learn more history.

    The West never wanted to colonize Siam, therefore they did not. Siam allied itself with Japan in World War II because they did not have the will or the means to fight them. They were willing accomplices to some of the most horrible torture and prison camp conditions of the war.

    In today’s society, with the world connected together much more than ever before, xenophobia and racism is seen as backward and ignorant by most educated people in the world. Perhaps a more tolerant and open minded attitude would be the best recommendation. Sawatdee khrap!

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      Sam 8 June 2012 at 10:40 am Permalink

      GB,
      I commend your restraint and trust that your message is well received.
      I suspect however, a further onerous missive from the somewhat disabused Siamese hierarchy.
      Please try to be gently dissuasive.
      Sam

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    ketil 14 March 2012 at 3:37 am Permalink

    Post on the side, but fun;)
    Every year we have Valentines day, 14 february, men need go around and look for flowers and chocolate and cards, and what not for therir girls.

    But today I learn that men have a day too, today 14. march is the «Steak & BJ Day». We not need cards or flowers or presents, just put a steak on and give us a Blow Job after dinner than we are happy;)

    And who say men are difficult???
    Have fun today:)

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    Lana 1 March 2012 at 4:43 am Permalink

    i was 25 when i married my american husband wh was 47. i did not see aage as problem he loved me i loved him this is what counts we have 2 children and plan third age is not the issue it is what both feel about each other

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    Ketil 31 December 2011 at 3:41 pm Permalink

    Hello!

    I whish everybody in here a splended and happy New Year;)

    Take care and have fun tonight wherever you are.

    Those in Thailand are already in the new year, for the rest of us it will come soon;)

    C u all next year;)
    Ketil

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    G.B. 7 December 2011 at 9:25 pm Permalink

    @Alex, you are most welcome. While I cannot possibly guarantee the success of every relationship, I can relate my own experiences. I wish for you both that you will find what you both see, and that you will have a long and joyful relationship.

    The cultural differences can get interesting sometimes, most often funny. Patience is key. While we were getting to know one another my wife and I talked about everything, and still do.

    Godspeed and blessings to you both.

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      ketil 8 December 2011 at 2:32 am Permalink

      Hello Alex.
      Same as G.B. I can only wite about my experiences too. To be a little anxious is good I think. You not take your girl for granted and you seem exited to meet her.
      Talking on internet is 1 thing, but meet in person is different.
      If you can break the ice quick I guess you will have a great time with her, and it’s only up to you what yopu do and how it will be.
      But with a few tips from G.B and me I think you will avoid the big mistakes, than Thai people thing the rest is funny and narak (cute) if we do something wrong in the beginning.
      Good luck to you and your girlfriend, and just be nice and be yourselfe.
      That’s my best advice;)

      Thanks for appriciate our tips to help you;)

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    David 6 December 2011 at 6:46 pm Permalink

    My wife always gets asked if I am her father, we are both Thai, but we met in the US. We have a great relationship, and I don’t think she married me for the money.

    This video is funny
    She’s not my daughter, she’s my wife
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofyy2dKoFPM

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      G.B. 7 December 2011 at 9:26 pm Permalink

      @David, the video was good *LOL*. I am nost sure what I would have said, but perhaps I might have been a little sarcastic at the “judgment” shown by the woman who asked.

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